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| OUYA: "A New Kind of Video Game Console"; A potential new console? | |
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| Topic Started: Jul 10 2012, 08:44 AM (1,163 Views) | |
| Kharnivore2099 | Jul 14 2012, 06:18 PM Post #26 |
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It would seem someone at EuroGamer is not so hopeful of this venture. http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-07-14-saturday-soapbox-the-trouble-with-ouya |
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| EuropeanGamer | Jul 20 2012, 02:48 AM Post #27 |
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I tend to agree with EuroGamer's view , i think it will struggle to find a consumer base with the average gamer and the casual gamer. Its also a case of will indie developers get on board and enjoy using the kit and will it entice them to stop developing for pc , xbla and mobile devices. Also hope that they make a serious revision to the controller. Not to say i'm not intrested in the device , im just going to wait to see how things get going for ouya. |
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| AndsyRR | Jul 20 2012, 04:35 AM Post #28 |
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If something seems too good to be true, it most likely is. I've been reading up a fair amount on the Ouya, it's a fantastic concept, and one I would love to get behind. But ultimately, I don't think it's a concept that will materialise in the specified timeframe, for the specified cost, nor will it live up to the wild claims the developers are currently making. Cost - The console is currently going for $99. The developer won't see all of this of course, Kickstarter and Amazon will take a chunk, as will taxes. Bear in mind that their initial target was $950k - it boggles the mind that they'd be able to set a unit into production on what I'm guessing is only around $700k. Timeframe - They've got 8 months, to confirm the design of the pad, secure suppliers for all their parts, finalise the design of the console itself, and secure a production plant. At the least it smacks of poor planning, but I honestly don't think they can pull it off. Ontop of this, what will it launch with? The OS isn't finished, bug tested etc etc. Various untruths - "It'll have minecraft on it*" *Providing we ship on time, people are happy, and demand stays strong, Mojang may then consider developing a port for Minecraft. "It'll be open! You can hack it!" - But if you plan on playing any paid content, you'll need to stay conencted to our servers. We'll be using DRM. Summary - I doubt it'll come to fruition. At the least it'll come in late, over budget, and under perform. I think the devs have thrown out a pipedream, populated it with exciting buzzwords, and will disappear with alot of cash. 
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| AndsyRR | Jul 26 2012, 03:41 AM Post #29 |
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Someone over at somethingawful spent some time and did an estimate on cost for the OUYA. This is pure speculation mind you. Tegra 3 Processor $21 NAND/DRAM $13.50 Wifi/Bluetooth $11 HDMI/Ethernet $2.60 Enclosure $3.50 Power Management $1.75 MCU $1 PCB $6.75 USB $3.50 Powercord/Brick/packaging $10.40 Estimate BoM of OUYA unit $75 Controller (will be higher) $20 EMS $4.75 Manufacturing $7.50 BoM + EMS + Manufacturing $107.25 Even if they've been a bit harsh on some areas, there's still no real profit margin on these devices. |
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| Kharnivore2099 | Jul 27 2012, 12:30 PM Post #30 |
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Seems like on-live want to get in on the Ouya too, probably cause thier one didnt take off too well. At least thats a way for the modern AAA titles to be on this badboy though. http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/ouya/ouya-a-new-kind-of-video-game-console/posts Edited by Kharnivore2099, Jul 27 2012, 12:30 PM.
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| AndsyRR | Jul 30 2012, 09:40 AM Post #31 |
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OnLive is already on android platforms though... I would seriously implore people to think twice before pledging 100 bux to this project. Read up and make an educated decision on whether or not you ever think this will materialise. On paper it sounds fantastic, but I honestly don't think it'll translate to reality too well! |
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| Kharnivore2099 | Jul 30 2012, 11:18 AM Post #32 |
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The thing was already funded by the time i got home from work, so i didnt bother chipping in for it. If it does come around though i'll be all over that shit |
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| AndsyRR | Jul 31 2012, 07:23 AM Post #33 |
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Most sensible course of action. Let other people gamble their cash. If it comes out, you can pick one up for a slightly increased cost. But when it doesn't come out... you won't be down 100 bux. Seriously, this thing is never gunna come out / live up to expectations / be any good whatsoever |
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| MidiPour | Jul 31 2012, 07:46 AM Post #34 |
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What does the Ouya do that the PC doesn't? Exactly. |
  
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| Kharnivore2099 | Jul 31 2012, 08:06 AM Post #35 |
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I totally think there's a market for it though, especially if its at the price suggested. I am always pro PC, but a lot of people just refuse to game on it or realise how easy it is to use for games. Even the mention of "PC" is enough to turn some people right off a game and not even look at it. To extend your statement, what do games consoles in general, excluding handhelds, do that PC's dont do? Nothing, but people still buy them... :/ |
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| metcar | Jul 31 2012, 08:47 AM Post #36 |
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Square Enix has officially announced their support for the Ouya by declaring that a port of Final Fantasy III is coming to the console with other games soon behind it. http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/07/31/final-fantasy-iii-launching-on-ouya |
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| AndsyRR | Jul 31 2012, 09:25 AM Post #37 |
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... which is currently on Android anyway. |
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| metcar | Jul 31 2012, 09:52 AM Post #38 |
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yeah i just saw that it's been a while since i really looked at the play store. eh basically if this thing is made we're just getting a tablet on the tv with a gamepad. |
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| SCScanlan | Jul 31 2012, 12:14 PM Post #39 |
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All the games made for it will play on it without worrying about control scheme, hardware specifications, or operating systems. |
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| MidiPour | Jul 31 2012, 12:45 PM Post #40 |
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How many instances do you find yourself worrying about either control scheme, hardware specifications, or operating systems? I mean, think about it, if you've been playing the 360 for the past month and decide to hop on the PS3... You'll realize you have to wait for an update to finish in order to play the game, along with getting re-acquainted with the controls. You also have to realize few PC games are really spec intensive, and brushing over the options menu and controls only takes a few seconds of your time. I think the problem lies in the fact that, as Kharn stated, people are reluctant to play on the PC. PC really isn't the beast people make it out to be. |
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| J-R | Jul 31 2012, 01:08 PM Post #41 |
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I agree with you MIDI. I was playing an XBox indie game and I liked it so much that I asked the guy who made he game where the prequel is and he said it was for PC. That kinda turned me off because I see no reason to play on a PC if I could play the same game on the Xbox 360. Not to mention my PC isn't the best choice for gaming either and I would rather use my PC to make games rather than play them. All in all, PC is an option but some of us just want to play console games. |
  
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| SCScanlan | Jul 31 2012, 01:43 PM Post #42 |
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Don't just focus on the control scheme brother, think about Direct X updates, incompatible graphics cards, system requirements, etc... I was simply adding that keyboard and mouse is a turnoff to a LOT of people I know. I've been pc gaming since loading cassette tapes and I've never truly stepped away from the machine. I'm just saying that consoles are streamlined systems and while you can disagree with that all you'd like you'll still be wrong. 
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| SCScanlan | Jul 31 2012, 01:47 PM Post #43 |
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Look at his first post a little better, he's saying: Who needs an Ouya if you have a PC? A sentiment I think a lot of people will be split on. That's been the PC argument for years and consoles still sell... |
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| thewhitepenny | Jul 31 2012, 04:42 PM Post #44 |
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Everyone is being to.negative. its only a hundred bucks... don't want it? Don't get it. |
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| Kharnivore2099 | Jul 31 2012, 05:33 PM Post #45 |
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Most updates are done automatically these days and usually in the back ground too, so half the time you dont notice. Its not like your PC freezes up and your sitting looking at that progress bar as the latest drivers or updates install. Hardware specs arent that hard to follow and as midi said, most games out there arent really that high spec. If your not really into computers your probably not looking to play those wildly graphic intense titles like BF3 or Skyrim etc. Even then you can quickly go into the menu, bring it down to the level of the consoles and then just restart the game. Easy as pie! Most PC games auto map themselves to 360 controllers as soon as they are inserted, so configs are essentially a thing of the past, unless you want a unique setup of course. I totally understand people not wanting to game with a keyboard and mouse, even if i do think they are superior in my opinion, but i jut dont think most people realize how easy it is these days. Its not like you have to setup sound cards via dos commands and need to search tirelessly for drivers. But yeah, back on topic, if it is a hundred bucks then i think it'll be more than worth it. Like i said elsewhere, being able to use ScummVM on my TV is worth that price alone. |
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| AndsyRR | Jul 31 2012, 11:54 PM Post #46 |
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Except for the whole issue of the pricepoint being unrealistic.... ;p Can argue against PC's all you like, but one single fact remains: PCs exist. The Ouya never will ;D |
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| MidiPour | Aug 1 2012, 01:29 AM Post #47 |
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I think collectors (thewhitepenny) will rejoice with the console if the console releases, and the price point really isn't a loss comparative to other hardwares out in the market. However, it baffles me how there's the amount of excitement for something that essentially exists in each and every one of our households. There has to be more of a draw to this hardware simply than what's prevalent on the PC and a cheap pricepoint, with the amount of people who use and upgrade their PC's makes me cautious to suggest PC is expensive at all. I mean, I'd think we all have modern day PCs, and let's be serious.. 5 million is a hefty sum of money. Again, to the collectors, this argument is not directed towards you. |
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| AndsyRR | Sep 12 2012, 07:52 AM Post #48 |
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Ouya Update: It's still never coming out. Hurfffffff |
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| DaveTheMan | Sep 13 2012, 08:26 AM Post #49 |
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Would you be able to put Emulators on this Thing? |
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| AndsyRR | Sep 13 2012, 08:37 AM Post #50 |
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In theory - yes. In practice - No, because it's never, ever gunna come out. |
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