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| PeteDorr | Jan 25 2012, 05:51 AM Post #1 |
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So after just getting hit with another renewal notice for the forums domain (at a bad time since I am saving up for my many travels this year to PAX and Disney and all that) I have decided after 3 years of not doing this to add a very discrete "Donate" link to the forums which is located right at the bottom of every page. Hosting 4 websites of my own (private domains and hosting fees for the blogs) adds up very fast in costs and I would greatly appreciate any donation to help pay for current and future hosting costs of the forum domain IMPORTANT: Donations are NOT to exceed $5 per person. $1-2 donations are encouraged most. Total Raised: $27 (Goal Met donations closed, thanks everyone! I really appreciate it!) Thank you to the following people: eSkilliam ($5) Ponch ($2) xXKomebackKidXx ($5) PhantomJest ($5) Tim W. ($5) MrTechnoSqueek ($5) Edited by PeteDorr, Yesterday, 3:18 AM.
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| STOP! STOP! STOP! This is NOT a Signature! This is NOT a Signature! This is NOT a Signature! This is NOT a Signature! This is a wall of text, it's a jumble of words, it's a wall of text for Collector's, this is not a Signature! STOP! READ! READ THE DESCRIPTION! This is NOT a Signature! STILL after this, people will still be still ignorant and think it's a Signature. This is a NOT a Signature. STOP, READ! READ WHAT THIS IS, this is a wall of text, this is NOT a SIGNATURE! STOP! AND READ! READ THE DESCRIPTION! READ THE DESCRIPTION! | |
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| NostalgiaKing | Jan 25 2012, 06:30 AM Post #2 |
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I'll be sure to donate next week when I get paid! Web hosting can be expensive =/ |
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| MrTechnoSqueek | Jan 25 2012, 11:06 AM Post #3 |
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I will definitely donate sometime...I have a virus though....called the Pete Dorr Virus..I CAN'T STOP BUYING SHIT ON EBAY! |
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| JohntheGameCollector | Jan 25 2012, 04:17 PM Post #4 |
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I'd love to donate, but it's going to have to wait till next month.... just bought a ton of game recommendations from you off ebay..... |
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| browland1 | Jan 25 2012, 08:09 PM Post #5 |
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I will definitely make a donation at some point as well. As a longtime member and moderator, I feel a strong connection to this forum and definitely a responsibility to keep it running at it's best. It's free and not overly heavy on ads, so it's the least I can do 
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| austinmackert | Jan 25 2012, 09:04 PM Post #6 |
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No shame in that! It costs money to run these sites. I will probably donate a tiny bit in the near future.
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| Andsy | Jan 26 2012, 05:15 AM Post #7 |
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With all due respect, I think this is a disgraceful move Pete. You're currently taking advantage of ZetaBoards for Free. The podcast is being hosted on iTunes or Archive.org There are no sizeable hosting implications here. You're begging for money for what amounts to a couple of domains, one of which you haven't updated in nearly a year. You're extremely lucky to be in the position you're in dude. You have 50,000 people watching your vids, earning you revenue just for chatting about games for 10 minutes at a time on youtube. If we wanna watch your videos we have adverts, come to the boards - adverts. Now 2 donate buttons on each page we visit? Nothankyou.jpg |
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| Body Fortress | Jan 26 2012, 05:32 AM Post #8 |
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It's a lot better to keep views like this to yourself, nothing will change no matter what you say other than a loss of respect for you. Making people who donate feel bad for doing so is worse than letting people spend their own money in a way you don't agree with. |
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| Andsy | Jan 26 2012, 06:04 AM Post #9 |
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Excuse me? Are you serious? So I'm not entitled to my view because YOU don't agree with it? I must keep quiet because my opinion goes against the great collective hivemind? I haven't said ANYTHING about anyone who wants to donate. It's their money, their prerogative. And absolutely none of my business. However, as a long standing member, and I hope to think - a good contributor to these boards, I should have a say, and give my feedback, just as long as I do so in a respectful, and articulate manner. Whether or not anyone actually gives a damn about my view, or acts upon it doesn't matter. What matters is that I'm entitled to my opinion. So, let me try to rephrase this in a manner that'll get past your whiteknight defences. I am happy to acknowledge, and accept fully that my opinion may be unpopular, however as a member of this great community, I feel my feedback should be heard. I think it's pretty disgusting that someone is begging for money to 'pay' for a service that's provided for free. Kinda ironic, that someone that calls out this kinda bullshit should lose 'e-respect' - when the person employing this rather scummy tactic is heralded as the second coming of Christ. So in summary, you know where you can delicately place your WhiteKnightin' ways. <3<3<3 |
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| Darro | Jan 26 2012, 06:25 AM Post #10 |
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Right, what's the point of keeping your official site up when it hasn't been updated in 8 months? If for one thing, that could be taken down to save some money since I am pretty sure not a whole lot of people visit that site now and instead visit the forums, which could be tied to it therefore can't be taken down. I could be completely wrong with this but I feel it is the case since the last article was from May 2011 therefore less people would be coming back to it and instead hitting the forums. Here is an idea: if you put away so many dollars each month, then you wouldn't have to resort to asking for donations to keep certain services up considering one is free and I am sure the others are not that expensive. When it comes to a game, you can easily spend $100-$200 if not more but when it comes to keeping websites up and active, you have to ask for donations. Seems pretty silly to me. My opinion might be unpopular for some but I just feel it is logical to look at these points at the end of the day. Edited by Darro, Jan 26 2012, 07:04 AM.
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| NostalgiaKing | Jan 26 2012, 06:50 AM Post #11 |
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| Andsy | Jan 26 2012, 06:59 AM Post #12 |
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It's not even that. Pete should be entitled to spend his money on whatever the hell he wants. If he wants to blow $$$$$$ on games, whores, chocolate or fluffy kittens, that's his business, and absolutely none of mine, yours or anyone elses. But looking at the statistics - These forums are costing him in the region of $10 a year. That's it. ZetaBoards host the forums for free. He just incurs the cost of registering the domain. DNS is free - Simply put, there are no additional costs. I have no grumble with people covering this $10 if they want, as I said, it's their money - they can do what they want with it. What I do have an issue with, is the lack of honesty here. In his very first post Pete LIED. Straight up lied. http://www.zetaboards.com/register/ "Creating a forum is completely free. No limit on posts or members. Fully featured, customizable free forum hosting." But Pete says: "I would greatly appreciate any donation to help pay for current and future hosting costs of the forum" Hell, all it takes is 2 people to donate $5 each, to cover the cost of the Forum domain. Any further donations will end up financing other sites you may or may not care about, or more realistically, lining Pete's pockets - Something that HCG has faced accusations of recently with the camcorder repair fees. Whether or not these accusations have any grounding is irrelevant, but I would have thought Pete would be a bit more sensible in the wake of the accusations. At the very least, it's a scummy, dishonest tactic. There are billions of worthwhile causes out there, lining Pete's pockets to help with visits to PAX and 'Disney Events' sure as hell aren't one of them. |
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| thewhitepenny | Jan 26 2012, 07:06 AM Post #13 |
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...... you guys.... You have every right to your opinion but this is how I view things. Pete for years now has provided you with hours upon hours of entertainment be it through his website a few years ago, the forums, his youtube show, and allgengamers. I just don't understand how someone can willingly pay $60 dollars for a newly released game only for a few hours of entertainment and when someone who has probably provided you with hundreds of hours of enjoyment over the years asks for a few bucks to help in some way they get pissed and rage about how "they don't deserve to ask subs for money." Pete has the right to ask for this money and to be honest... he can spend the money I give him in any way he wants. Want to buy a new game? Go for it! WHOOOO CARES! |
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| Andsy | Jan 26 2012, 07:24 AM Post #14 |
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| Darro | Jan 26 2012, 07:34 AM Post #15 |
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So with your last sentence, you pretty much are saying that you don't care if he takes the money donated he says in his post is going to be used for hosting the domains now and for the future but could perhaps be used to spend on whatever he sees fit. That is just pretty much another way of stealing in my opinion. I have nothing against people giving games/money to him and to other people etc but basically asking for something to do one thing and then do something completely different with it is dishonest no matter who does it whether it is you or me. Edited by Darro, Jan 26 2012, 07:36 AM.
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| browland1 | Jan 26 2012, 10:10 AM Post #16 |
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I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with what is being said here; everyone is entitled to their opinion and donating to the site is opt-in, opt out. From my own perspective, I don't see why there is such a big kerfuffle. Many sites I visit, including ones like Cinemassacre and Classic Game Room, are largely maintained through fan support (monetary and otherwise) despite making substantial revenue that presumably pays for their overhead expenses. If Pete was saying something along the lines of "Donate or else I will shut down this site", I would better understand the outrage and probably share in it. He is simply asking, as many others do, and it's hardly mandatory. As for lying about his expenses or what he plans to use the money for, I will admit that I know very little about the cost of web hosting and I have heard different figures from different people. That's not my call to make. If I choose to donate, it's because I want to support this site, Pete's channel and other endeavors. I don't view donating as supporting greed or ass-kissing, nor do I view not donating as not caring about the forums or not "giving back" as it were. It's a personal choice. Anyway, that's my $0.02 on the subject. |
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| thewhitepenny | Jan 26 2012, 10:39 AM Post #17 |
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LOL this is in no way stealing... I willingly give him money through a donation because I have loved his content. What he does with my donation.... don't really care. |
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| Darro | Jan 26 2012, 12:10 PM Post #18 |
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Fine I guess but I just wouldn't like it if I donated money to something and it ends up being for something else. |
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| ctx47 | Jan 26 2012, 08:01 PM Post #19 |
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Okay we get it, your mad that he want's money for something that is practly free, you guys don't need to keep saying you won't pay. But that beign said, i'm not paying either. Your kinda beating a sure as hell dead horse here |
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| eSkilliam | Jan 26 2012, 08:15 PM Post #20 |
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This website has kept me from being bored for at least a few years... Whether Pete uses the money to keep it up or not, it doesn't bother me. I chipped in $5. If he doesn't use it for the site maybe he can use it to get a slice of pizza or a cheeseburger. I would do the same for my real life friends and co-workers. I don't see this differently at all. Thanks for making this community happen Pete. BTW, if you do get pizza, Little Caesar's will give you a whole large for like $5, don't get ripped off with just one slice. |
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| PeteDorr | Jan 27 2012, 11:25 AM Post #21 |
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The forums are free to host (I have never hid this and brought it up in the past when people inquired about donations), but keeping up my domain is not free. I do not have the luxury of using some crappy domain hosting since my name is out there I must take more security measures for private registration for EVERY site I own which more than doubles the "normal" cost (unless that is if I want people to be able to find all of my contact info including phone numbers and crap in a matter of minutes, and I have received phone calls in the past). The podcast is being hosted on itunes and archive.org sure, but it still costs money to run the actual SITE. Also I have edited my initial post to avoid confusion as to what people are actually donating for (as looking back I can totally see why it would have seemed as though I was asking for donations for a free forum) Sure my website is outdated, but it does act as a "central link hub" to all of my social media and sites and such for new visitors of my channel page. I would LOVE to update it more frequently, but my life's schedule says otherwise for now. Believe me, I very frequently want to spend more time on there which I hope to do in the future, but I simply can't delete that site since for press/media reasons I need something other than a youtube page link. Also, please do not speak assuming I pay next to nothing for web hosting. I currently pay $300 a year for domains/web hosting. Before you say "you are overpaying!" do not forget I simply can't take the cheap mans way out for security purposes, and my web hosting is very convenient and user friendly and that comes at an increased price. Also as others have mentioned, many other websites that have WAY more subscribers than I do still put up donation links for the viewers who wish to do so. It's not like I am making a video on youtube begging for money, its a small link on a forum for christs sake lol. Also whats the difference between people who ask for game donations (like Classic Game Room) or people who publicly post their PO Boxes for item donations? I think my small optional "donate" button ONLY on my personal forum is quite tame in comparison. The only thing I decided I am going to change is I am going to remove the top "donate" button and just leave the one on the bottom. I can't customize it enough to make it non-distracting and I don't want it to appear on my sub forums for other users like HCG, OKS, AGG forums etc. so I am just going to keep the link on the very bottom of the page and remove the top one. I am sorry you feel the way you do about my choices and you are right you are able to voice your opinions on the forum (As long as they adhere to our guidelines/rules, which yours do) but seriously if you are so agitated or whatever the case may be by my revenue on YouTube (which you are right I am very privileged to have the viewers I do) and the fact that I have added a small optional "donate" button to my own personal forum, I really don't know what to tell you lol. Edited by PeteDorr, Jan 27 2012, 12:06 PM.
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| PeteDorr | Jan 27 2012, 11:36 AM Post #22 |
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I have access to my statistics on that site, it receives thousands of clicks a month and people ARE using it as I had imagined as links are getting clicked as well, most likely many new viewers or returning users using it as a link hub to browse my social sites. I have plans for my site though, it will definitely be updated more frequently in the future. |
| STOP! STOP! STOP! This is NOT a Signature! This is NOT a Signature! This is NOT a Signature! This is NOT a Signature! This is a wall of text, it's a jumble of words, it's a wall of text for Collector's, this is not a Signature! STOP! READ! READ THE DESCRIPTION! This is NOT a Signature! STILL after this, people will still be still ignorant and think it's a Signature. This is a NOT a Signature. STOP, READ! READ WHAT THIS IS, this is a wall of text, this is NOT a SIGNATURE! STOP! AND READ! READ THE DESCRIPTION! READ THE DESCRIPTION! | |
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| MrTechnoSqueek | Jan 27 2012, 12:14 PM Post #23 |
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| Ponch | Jan 27 2012, 12:47 PM Post #24 |
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Donated yesterday. Not much but hope it helps. |
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| Richard | Jan 27 2012, 01:52 PM Post #25 |
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PeteDorr the gaming whore has it all but still wants more! JK. I see no issue with the donate tab as long as the amount received is listed as in your total amount of donations and what it is going towards exactly. I only say this because lets say theoretically I or someone else wants to donate, but doesn't realize you have already received 500 dollars or something(just throwing a random number out). If you go over what you need, then come up with something to do with the extra money and post it. Don't say it will go towards next years costs because we need to have one hand in the present because we don't know what happens next year as it is too early to say. I think the negative feedback may be just to rile up a debate or hints of jealousy. Obviously, Pete makes a decent chunk of change for his youtube videos but it is his right to do with that what he wants. Personally, I would use my youtube profits if I was Pete to go towards expanding my channel and its extensions, but if he wants to use it to buy new games then whatever, he earned it. I mean he just got a green screen for his channel and probably uses youtube money for new cameras also. I can see why some people would be against Pete though. His videos have significantly lower production values than other video game channels anywhere near his subscriber count, though he is stepping it up for sure and deserves the credit. Ads on almost all his videos and spends a huge % of his money on games. In the end of the day he still remains one of my favorite youtubers and almost all the criticism he gets always goes back to jealousy. |
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